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i knew you bulgarians are dumb ass people but you are a champion. you know when is going to be bulgaria on three seas,NEVER and not even then
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Bulgaria on three streams, more likely

[SCThugz]

I agree with Hatori Hanzo. There were few conflicts between Bulgaria and Serbia for this territory. But why don't you tell something about the monastery "Света Богородица Пречиста" near Kichevo? Have you seen what you serbs have done to this beatiful monastery? Inside the building there is our tzar Boris I (852-889) painted on the wall, but his name written on the wall is erased with something sharp. And this deed was done by Ortodox serb...
You can see our tzar Boris painted on the wall in the monastery "Свети Наум" near Ohrid, in the church "Свето Благовещение" in Prilep, in Resen in the church "Свети Кирил и Методий"...there are many more, but I saw those with my own eyes.
In the monastery "Света Богородица Каменичка" in Ohrid there is a fresco with the holy brothers Kiril and Metodii which are holding a scroll with the bulgarian alphabet and there is a sign between two of them "Български просветители - те създават азбуката българска". There is an icon in the monastery "Света Богородица Пречиста" near Kichevo with the same picture and sign. And there is another icon made in XIV century with the holy brothers and their students holding the bulgarian alphabet, found in Ohrid.
And the greeks writting in this forum will confirm with pleasure the next fact. When their emperor Vasilii (I'm not sure how to wrote his name - in Bulgaria he is called "Василий", so i write Vasilii, but if this is not the way his name should be written, I'm sorry) finally conquer Bulgaria in 1018, he was wondering what to do with the bulgarian patriarchate, because in Byzantium there was another patriarchate, and it was impossible to have two patriarchates in one country. So he reduce it in archbishopric in 1019 with the name "Bulgarian autocephalous archbishopric" - Българска автокефална архиепископия, based in Ohrid. The leader of it was signed in few thousend church documents as "Archbishop of Ohrid (Justiniana Prima) and whole Bulgaria". This archbishopric was claimed from all - turks, serbs, greeks - as a BULGARIAN, and all orthodox christians in those lands called themselves as BULGARIANS, from 1019-1767year.
Have you seen churches "Света Неделя", "Света Богородица" in Bitoly? There are signs on them "Построено от българите във Биотля 1863". Тhere is sign on the church "Свети Димитър" in Skopie - "Построена от българите в Скопие 1864".
And what about all the seals of the churches and cities in FYROM ? On each seal from those years is written "Българска църковна община"
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There are many more facts, but I'll stop here. My aim is not ofend or argue with somebody in this forum, i tried to wrote only facts about this territory prooving only one thing - in Macedonia there were a lots of bulgarians, fewer serbs and greeks, some albanians, but no "macedonians".
I'll be glad to see your point of view, and some evidences prooving your theories about this beatuful land.

P.S.
The saddest thing is that Macedonia will become part of Albania. When three sides are fighting for something, usually someone else win it...

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There is Serb monastery in Chicago, with frescoes of Tzar Dusan... That doesn`t make Mitchigen a serbian land.

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Illinois, sorry

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SCThugz
ok so you want to say that macedonia is bulgarian...
bulgarian empire in 10th century was very strong, that is 100% true, that state occupied lot of teritory of todays rep.Serbia, but it dosent make that teritories bulgarian.

[SCThugz]

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wow, so many beutifull words. you are trying to prove your point to a wrong people we know who are bulgarians.few conflicts does not give right picture,how many times you attacked us and how many times we attacked you,tell me.battle of velbuzd 1330,battle of bregalnica 1913,world war 1 almost every time we were attacked you are ussing that chance to attacked us from behind along with every our neighbor ecxept GREEKS and ROMANIANS. in diaspora lot of church were founded by greeks,serbians and russians(never with bulgarians)you tell me why. don't give that story that macedonia should be bulgarian based that you were strong empire in past if we going with that logic than greeks have most right to claim not just macedonia but whole balkan becouse they were here long before slavic people came in to the balkans.
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[SCThugz]

Well, I know that trying to explain to greeks and serbs the bulgarian point of view about Macedonia is not good idea
Velbuzd 1330 - yes, we attacked you, but Bulgaria was in alliance with the greeks against you. Why don't you blame us and the greeks equally? And why don't you say how you win this battle?And what about 923 ? Roman Lakapin gave some gold to you and you attacked us.
How you dare to speak about the period 1912-1913?
And what about WWI ?We were trying to get our lands, which you and the greeks have stollen from us.
I was trying to explain our point of view with some historical facts and I was trying not to offend you.

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so Mr SCThugz, you're trying with your Bulgarian propaganda to create a problem and a fight between 2 BROTHER NATIONS and between Gate 7 and Delije... Nice try but you won't succeed! And just to know, 3 parts of Macedonia today, Vardar Aegean and Pirin, Greeks made an alliance with Serbs against you with the deal that we will take Aegean Macedonia and they'll take Vardar Macedonia so you took only Pirin Macedonia! The problem is with people from FYROM that they call theirselves Macedonians and they think that they are Alexander's Ancestors and they are NOT! Tito gave them nation and named them "Macedonia", before 1939 the name of them was "Vardarska Bonivia"! So stop your propaganda NOW! Nice try to create problems between BROTHERS but you can't!
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[SCThugz]

"create a problem and a fight between 2 BROTHER NATIONS and between Gate 7 and Delije" how to create it ? Belive me this is the last thing I'm interested - the alliance between you and them. I really don't care about it, and I have no reason to "create problems between BROTHERS".
There is a big difference between propaganda and historical facts, right ? And one of those facts is that "macedonians" are not Alexander's ancestorsNo one prooved the things I've said are lies, instead you found some evil conspiracy trying to break your friendship.

[RedBull-7-]

Listen, if you don't care to create problems, then put your Bulgarian propaganda in your ASS and DON'T write here! Can you understand that this forum it's for our BROTHERSHIP and if you don't care about it YOU ARE NOT WELCOMED here? You only came to make your propaganda! And Alexander's Ancestors of course are Macedonians, Macedonians are Ancient Northern Greeks and Macedonia is Northern Greece! I am half Makedon by myself, red_knight is 100% Macedonian!
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[SCThugz]

I was sure that normal conversation about this topic is impossible. But you are right, this is yours forum, and no one shares my point of view, so there is no reason for me to write here. I've said what I've got to say. You don't prove I'm wrong.
P.S. my ancestors are also from this land, so perhaps there is something macedonian in me
P.P.S. 14.12.2006 - Sofia.

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[RedBull-7-]

I have nothing to prove you, Scientists History and Historians proved it already! What you proved here? That you are Alexander's Descendant? Or that Macedonia it's Bulgarian?
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