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Tima ДЕЛИЈА
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Posted: 27 Aug 2005 10:21 Post subject: Članci iz novina |
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Molim Delije(uglavnom iz inostranstva) da na dole postavljeni mail šalju sve isečke iz novina koje imaju veze sa našom grupom a izašle su u stranim novinama. Članak treba skenirati i poslati na: [email protected] _________________ Зашто плавуша навија за Партизан?
Зато што је глупа.
Зашто је плавуша глупа?
Зато што навија за Партизан |
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NN Ветеран
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u novom broju "TmK"-a je izasla reportaza o gostovanju u Zapresicu, inace prisustvovao je Poljski urednik navijackog casopisa, ima par dobrih fotki{za razliku od Nasih fotografa koji Neznaju da slikaju }, dobra je prica i komentar" ekipa Delija je izgledala po godistu i gabaritima jedna od najjacih koje Sam video" ,mala reklama, verovatno ce Ti stici u ruke tako da necu skenirati, i uozbilji se Timicu...
Imam isecak i iz Portugalskih novina /BRAGA/, sacuvacu i to... |
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Posted: 13 Dec 2005 08:11 Post subject: |
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evo odlomak iz jednih alsaskih novina (internet izdanje)
www.dna.fr
direktan link: http://www.dna.fr/sport/football/20051213_DNA009521.html
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Les dirigeants strasbourgeois attendent aussi un grand nombre de supporters serbes, ce qui, compte tenu de leur réputation violente, ne manque pas de les inquiéter. Des cars venus de Suisse, d'Allemagne, de Belgique et même de Suède sont ainsi annoncés.
Un dispositif de police spécial sera mis en place pour l'occasion et, outre les 500 places réservées aux supporters officiels du club belgradois dans le quart de virage protégé, la tribune Est (3 500 sièges) sera entièrement bloquée pour les supporters yougoslaves
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Vodeci ljudi Strazbura ocekuju veliki broj srpskih navijaca, sto nije da bude bez brige znajuci njihovu agresivnu reputaciju. Autobusi stizu iz Svajcarske, Nemacke, Belgije pa cak i iz Svedske su se najavili.
Bice mobilisana specijalna policija za ovu priliku i 500 mesta su rezervisana za zvanicne navijace beogradskog kluba na tribinama (kod kornera) dok ce i ceo est biti dodeljen navijacima crvene zvezde.
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Jebiga ljudi Ipak ce nas iz evrope odvojiti od navijaca iz Beograda mamu im jebem |
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Lepi Johnny ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
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Posted: 21 Apr 2006 19:54 Post subject: E ovo je bas fino.opet smo braca-----------timesonline.co.uk |
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EXTREME right wing groups from eastern Europe are planning to subject England’s black football stars to racist abuse during the World Cup tournament in Germany.
The gangs, from Serbia, Croatia and the Czech Republic, have held meetings at which they agreed to put aside traditional rivalries for the duration of the tournament.
Radi Jiricna, a Czech organiser of the “United Fascist Brigade”, warned: “We will be coming together to fight in Germany . . . our spiritual home. We are looking for black English players because they are taking the places of white players.”
The Sunday Times has learnt of a meeting held two months ago in Serbia, involving six Czech skinheads and the Delije, notoriously violent supporters of Red Star Belgrade. Two weeks later they met a group of hooligans from Croatia.
Fifteen years ago a pitched battle in a football stadium between Red Star fans and a rival Croatian club was one of the sparks that ignited the Balkan wars.
One of the Serbian organisers, Dragan Banovic, explained: “Germany will be one big battleground this summer. This is an opportunity for our groups to shout our message and to know people will hear it.”
Banovic, a former paramilitary who fought in Bosnia alongside Arkan, the Serbian war criminal assassinated in 2000, added: “For the time of the World Cup, traditional rivalries will be forgotten. I will be able to stand alongside others from Zagreb and Split, from Prague, Rome and Milan to shout with one voice because we all feel the same.
“There will be many more in Germany who will have sympathy with us and we think we will be able to cause many problems for the police. Our targets are the black players and those who follow them. The black players from England will be a good target for us because they will react to what we shout and to the banners we will be carrying. We will be throwing more than bananas at them.”
The thugs say they will not be deterred by measures intended to prevent them from buying tickets, and will fight outside the stadiums. They plan to link up with like-minded hooligans from Italy’s notorious extremist groups to create “Ultras United”.
At a meeting held in London last month, European police chiefs discussed how to prevent fascist groups from targeting African teams and black members of the England squad, such as Rio Ferdinand, Sol Campbell and Ledley King. |
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Lepi Johnny ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
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Posted: 21 Apr 2006 19:59 Post subject: http://www.socialistunitynetwork.co.uk/news/lazio.htm |
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Morao sam i ovo da postavim,bilo je jace od mene
The most extreme manifestation of Ultra influence was the formation of Arkan’s Tigers in Belgrade. Ethnic identities within the former Yugoslavia were often expressed via allegiance to football teams. The Balkan war was foreshadowed by the last ever match of the Yugoslav league, that saw Red Star Belgrade’s Delije (Heros) battle for hours against Dynamo Zagreb’s firm, the “Bad Blue Boys”. The match had to be abandoned after 10 minutes, and Dynamo’s stadium was left razed by fire. At some time the same year, Slobodan Milosevic recruited Arkan to organise the Delije, and during the Balkan war Arkan’s paramilitaries– also including hooligans from Belgrade Partizan’s Gravediggers’ firm – acted as an Einsatzgruppe. They first saw action in Slavonia in 1991, and the indictment at the Hague against Arkan related to the Vukovar hospital massacre, in which hundreds of patients - mainly Croats - were bussed to a deserted field and butchered.
Even to this day the Delije are provided with free transport to away matches by Red Star, and have office facilities at the club’s ground. |
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Posted: 21 Apr 2006 20:16 Post subject: Re: http://www.socialistunitynetwork.co.uk/news/lazio.htm |
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Lepi Johnny wrote: | Even to this day the Delije are provided with free transport to away matches by Red Star |
majku mu, kako su nas provalili.. ![Embarassed](images/smiles/icon_redface.gif) _________________ НЕ ДАМО НАШУ ЗВЕЗДУ! |
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Mikelandjelo ДЕЛИЈА
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... organizovani zločinački poduhvat ... ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) _________________ Ако ли те заборавим, Косово, нека ме изда десница моја! |
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Evo naso sam ovo danas na netu.
Delije - Red Star supporters
Sports Club Red Star was founded on March 4, 1945, as a result of Belgrade youth's effort to establish a sport club which they will be dedicated to. At the very beginning, there was made a section of members-friends of SC Red Star which had about 100 faithful supporters of red-whites who started to go with the club on all away games. The section was mostly made of boys from the burjoise parts of the city - Senyak, Topcider Hill, Dedinye, Knez Mihaylova st., but amongst the first Red Star supporters there were also children of workers, who will form the 'first team' of supporters leaders in future period. All these guys had something special, because they represented the very soul of our capital.
Mostly they were city rough guys and bohems - all in all young Belgradians who did not like nor army nor communist system, which has already began to rot.
In late 50s begins a separation between spectators and pure supporters, mostly because of the fact that supporters have began to bring rattles, bells and a few flags to the stadium.
With Dragoslav Sekularac arrival in Red Star, supporters get their mirror on the field, because Seki had Belgrade manners, not only talent. Supporters especially appreciated Seki's battle spirit, which was magnet for new red-white guys. The complete new glow Red Star got after one of the Europe's largest stadium was built and named Marakana after Brazilian temple of football. The most faithful supporters finally gather on their own stadium, and among them most fanatic are grouping on NorthEast side.
Turning the North into a volcano eruption - end of 70s
70s bring first supporters gathering before the match - mostly in pub 'White town', on Green market, where you could find supporters from the 'old days', and some of the most popular 'city guys'. 'White town' has a special meaning in the history of Red Star tifos - that's where they gathered, made jokes, tanked up and trained their voices before the game.
When going to the stadium, the leaders stood in front and walked before the others. If they, by chance, met opponent group, clash was inevitable and the opponents always lose their and other marks. When the roof construction of stadium was finished, the most fanatic supporters have moved to the central part of the North side of stadium, where from even today the Craziness of North begins, as illustrated in a graffiti - EPICENTER OF MADNESS - CRAZY NORTH.
At these days Red Star already became a great club - it reaches to the semifinals of Cup of European Champions and without Dzajic (sent off) it beats Panathinaikos with fantastic score 4:1. Fourteen days later revenge was played in Athens where PAO won 3:0 and threw all red-white supporters down.
Supporters already have large number of away games out of boundaries of old Yugoslavia (although it was very hard to get passport), and their favorites get their support in Madrid, Liverpool, Muenchengladbach etc. The end of 70s brought first big fights, not only at the stadiums, but out of them as well. So, traditional flags with big carrier bars were banned, but that did not stop the fights, especially with great rivals, who were always black and blue after clashes. Rival groups tried to insult us shouting 'Gypsies' while we yelled back - 'We are gypsies, we are the strongest'
Crazy 80's
In the 80s there was a football fan boom all over the world - so on the North two big supporters groups appear - ULTRAS and RED DEVILS. While ULTRAS were doing it Italian way (long and melodic songs, fireworks, choreography), RED DEVILS group was based on SERBIAN habits - (which was often mixed with English habits) - drinking to death, beating rivals to death and consuming marijuana.
ULTRAS and RED DEVILS leaders were not aware of the fact that they have become idols of young generation, which was very numerous at the stadium. These two groups regularly made unrest, which brought them into conflict with the communist police. Because of many incidents guys belonging to these two groups were regularly arrested.
In the mid-eighties, ULTRAS and RED DEVILS were strengthened by another new group - ZULU WARRIORS. These 3 groups have became the body of the North, and with help of other formations like WINNERS, RED WHITE ANGELS, BRIGATE, EAGLES, R. S. CLAN, R. S. ARMY... they made opponent supporters tremble. They had really big number of away games, where they made friends and (much more often) enemies. Some of the greatest away trips were to London, Paris, Athens, Berlin, Milano, Barcelona and Madrid.
End of 80s came with strong nationalism, and Red Star supporters, in the spirit of their tradition, declare themselves as extreme Serbian nationalists (who could know what it will lead to ...), but clearly stating that Red Star is the most important thing in the world - much stronger than all political divisions. While leading supporters groups in Croatia, under cover of HDZ (leading party in Croatia) made several 'coalitions' (even that didn't help them), 'gypsies' have always emphasized that their greatest rivals are Partizan's tifos, although they are mostly Serbs.
To show that it isn't under anybody's patronage, and that it uses its own head, the North gives an example to the others. In the moment when politics was already deeply inside stadiums and when Red Star fans were close to thing that has already happened to supporters from Croatia, which became a branch of a leading political party, big meeting of all North groups was held - with only one goal - that no other name except Red Star, Belgrade and Serbia should be spoken on the games. That rule is obliged even today, although fans use every opportunity to express their political opinion.
Soon an info-center for fans was opened, and also a shop of supporters arsenal (caps, scarves, posters, shirts, audio tapes etc. ...). We also got a room for meetings, and member card were also made. From the day of founding DELIJE stated that they intended to be a modern European group, which became true in a very short while.
Of course, fights with Partizan fans and fans of Croat and Moslem clubs were still inevitable. In these fights DELIJE 'best crew' was never beaten. DELIJE proved their willingness to fight for Red Star and Serbia on May 13th in Zagreb, during the antological incident, when great battle with home supporters Bad Blue Boys happened and when whole southern side of the Dinamo stadium was demolished.
Of course, unforgettable are fights with other Croat groups, like Torcida Split (Hajduk fans).
European glory - early 90's
New North epoch started, away trips were more often and more organized. It became absurd to talk about the number of DELIJE, because this number was greater from game to game. DELIJE catch their star, and do not let her go, they follow it on every game, not even dreaming that it will lead them to heavenly heights... These years there was strong North wind blowing, and hurricane named Red Star was blasting around Europe, having no mercy to anyone.
DELIJE in great number follow their beloved club on trips to Zurich, Glasgow, Dresden, Munich and to the finals in Bari. DELIJE members who were in Dresden speak of that trip as the best one, because of the great clash with German police. Fight lasted for few hours, and funny domestic nazi-supporters had kicked asses, pretty much. On semifinals second game DELIJE made unforgettable fireworks and with fantastic supporting they helped the players to do the impossible and go to the finals of European Champions Cup.
The finals are not just a dream anymore, and ships, planes, bicycles, bikes took the world's craziest fans - DELIJE of the North, to one single place - St Nicola in Bari, Italy.
In Bari everything and everybody was with us. St Nicola, Ciciolina and dozens and dozens thousands of supporters from all parts of Yugoslavia and Europe. Mighty God listened to our prayers and gave us what we wanted for years - the Cup of European Champions. Fans of Olympique Marseille left Bari in tears - some of them because of their club's defeat, some because of 'close encounter' with Delije - who have brought dozens of souvenirs grabbed from the opponent fans.
Winning of European Cup didn't fulfill our ambitions - December 8th 1991 in Tokyo Red Star beats South-American champion Colo-Colo of Chile and wins the title of the World Champion.
Together with Red Star's winning of European throne comes the destruction of ex-country. In season 1991/92 international community forbids our clubs to play their matches in Yugoslavia - so Red Star hosted Portdown in Szeged and Anderlecht in Budapest (Hungary), and Panathinaikos and Sampdoria in Sofia (Bulgaria). Despite of war, poverty, closed state borders, the most faithful supporters in the world follow Red Star on all matches, beating everyone who came in their way. Guys from Genova will forever remember the clash with DELIJE, and so will the green-whites of Athens.
The war came along as old country fell apart. The Serbian national spirit brought many supporters from the North side to front - to preserve Serbian people in Republic of Srpska and Serbian Kraina from being slaughtered by Ustashi (Croat) knife. The legend of brave guys from the North who gave their lives for mother Serbia will always be present among the Red Star supporters.
New boys, old passion - End of 90's ...
When sanctions were over, things got a little bit better. Young guys, 18-25 years old came in the front, after getting experienced on the stadiums all over Serbia and Montenegro. Old supporters also keep coming back. ULTRAS way is most popular, because the name DELIJE became a synonym for every Red Star supporter, and the greatest fan always want to differentiate themselves.
All away games in the country are very attended, and love for the Red Star DELIJE show not only supporting footballers, but basketballers, handballers, volleybalers, waterpolers as well.
First European trip for new generation of ULTRAS was on 15.10.1995 when handball club Red Star played abroad match in Gyor - Hungary - one bus of ULTRAS went there.
Next year, about 200 fans from Serbia, and few thousands Serbs who worked in Western Europe, supported Red Star in German town Kaiserslautern. Good cooperation between Red Star management and the fans, showed very good results in Barcelona, when 1500 fans followed their club - amongst them 100 of them to whom the club had paid the trip to Catalonia. On games in Kaiserslautern and Barcelona ULTRAS have showed that they are a group who has no problem about traveling with their beloved club, even on most distant relations, despite of crisis in Yugoslavia. Clashes with German and Spanish policemen proved that 'gypsies' are very keen on incidents, of course only in situations when it is necessary The choreographies on 'Marakana' on match against Germans, and especially against Barcelona, proved once again our great organization. No supporting group in Europe can say for themselves that they have made 4 different choreographies on 4 sides of stadium - like 'gypsies' did against Barcelona. Great number of eminent European fan magazines give a lot of space to DELIJE, because they also realize that we are in the very top of Euro Ultra scene.
Four years of non-presence in Europe were not enough to weaken DELIJE. On the contrary in season 1996/97 organization on the North got even better - speaking of away games, production of new fan - requisites, more often choreographies, and a lot of ULTRA subgroups appear, and the most significant ones are Ultra Boys, Red Boys, Brigate, North Army, Kenjaj, Lunatics, Iron Boys, Goblins, Red Evil, Heroes...
Most of these young groups have united in the one of strongest Serbian fan-mob - Belgrade Boys. Their incidents were well known on our tifo-scene even before those groups officially united. Everybody still talks about amazing clashes with United Force (F.C. Rad Belgrade fans, the best 'fresh blood' in Serbian hool-scene), when in 1996/97 season 400 of hools fought, 3 of them were seriously wounded by knifes, and 22 of them were arrested, as Delije won the battle. Then fights in Novi Sad against Red Firm (Vojvodina's supporters), and clashes with Zemun fans, when 3 of them finished in hospital, with heavy injuries.
Belgrade Boys did some actions, which can be described only as 'new ways of hooliganism', like - ambushing a whole train full of Grobari who were arriving at derby match in our Belgrade, when about 40 of Bgd-Boys rocked the train, and had fought with running-away Partizan's fans.
Clashes with Grobari always have been and will always be - main event in red-white world of Delije.
In this year, 3 big incidents happened with them. First, on football match, when Grobari launched rocket-fireworks from their South terrace, one of them hit 16-y-old boy at Delije's North terrace, who died immediately. After this, police proclaim use of pyrotechnics on football matches, and punishment was 3 months for every single firework. Of course, Delije didn't care too much for that new law, and continued to use all kind of pyro's, everywhere.
Red Star supporters were and will always be anti-Communists. Even now, when police torture is worse then ever, Delije continue with their style: songs, choreographies, and incidents...
In the season of 2000/2001, Delije had one of biggest fight with police: on the match with Torpedo (Georgia) in the qualf. for Champions League - clashes with police started in 35th minute, and lasted almost hour and a half!
Result? 13 seriously injured anti-riot-cops, who tried to be "peace-force" on our North terrace.
Other incidents happened in the May of 2000.
After 2nd play-off match in basketball, with our main rivals, Partizan's Grobari (Gravediggers), waited for us near one of the biggest bus-stations in city, about 30-40 of them, all with sticks, rocks etc..
But, young Belgrade Boys sent informers, and they spreaded through the city and after collecting information where they were - Bgd-Boys surrounded Partizan's fans on the main city-bus station, and then the fight began.
There was not real fight, because our opponents scared to death when they saw approximately same number of red-white guys, but coming from 3 sides. After first minute, when rocks were flying all over, Delije lighted light-torches and run inside Grobari group, beating everyone. After they ran away, Belgrade Boys charged them through the city, even with cars. And only two days later, at 3rd playoff game Grobari were collecting in front of one supermarket, about 70-80 of them, drinking and singing, and our youth forces (yeah.. again Belgrade Boys:), about 40 of them, lighted torches and with wood-sticks ran into them. About 10 Grobari were injured, and all the rest run away from the clash-scene.
Delije are together in everything, but every singular group has its own life, and this was a short description of just one of existing Delije-group - Belgrade Boys.
There are guys like Ultra Boys (I don't have a time or energy to describe all the things that those guys did), or old (but still the best) Ultras Red Star Belgrade, etc.. but I think this story was enough to show you why we are so popular in Tifo-world...
Things are getting better in Serbia. From the view of soccer-fans, of course. Number of spectators is rising, number of organized fan-groups, too. And, international club competitions are again here, in front of Serbian fans.
So...
Europe, take care, 'cause we are back.. now even stronger. _________________ ............Stop Represiji nad navijacima.......... |
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Lepi Johnny ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
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Sta reci??
dobro je sto je kratko |
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Ali Tima trazi
Tima wrote: | isečke iz novina |
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Lepi Johnny ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
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http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,,1123137,00.html
internet verzija clanka britanskog observer-a
jeb ga,dugacko je al ima zanimljivih stvari
Football, blood and war
They took their cue from the English - and became Europe's most feared hooligans. With their close links to Arkan and his murderous paramilitaries, Serbian football fans are the only supporters whose hatred sparked a bloody national conflict. Now their country has been paired with Bosnia in the World Cup. Dave Fowler meets the gang leaders in Belgrade as they prepare for another violent campaign
Sunday January 18, 2004
The Observer
Whenever Red Star Belgrade meet their local city rivals Partizan, the atmosphere is rancid with hatred and aggression. Their rivalry is as fierce and embedded as any in world football. But on the afternoon of 22 March 1992, when Partizan visited Red Star's 60,000 all-seater 'Maracana' stadium for a routine league match, something strange happened. Before the game, as the fans began making their way to the stadium from across the city, there had been sporadic outbreaks of fighting and violence. Inside the stadium, once the game had started, the Red Star 'ultras', massed in the north stand, began taunting the supporters of Partizan, denouncing them as 'faggots, Turks, Muslims, blacks, communists'. There was nothing unusual about any of this and no doubt the hooligan gangs of both clubs were eager for more trouble after the game.
Then, abruptly, the chanting stopped. The crowd watched as a group of Serbian paramilitaries (the self-styled 'Tigers'), dressed in full uniform, took up positions in the north stand. There were about 20 of them and, one by one, they held aloft road signs: '20 miles to Vukovar'; '10 miles to Vukovar'; 'Welcome to Vukovar'. More road signs were brandished, each one bearing the name of a Croatian town that had fallen to the Serbian army. From high up in the stand, Arkan, the notorious commander-in-chief of the Tigers and director of the Red Star supporters' association, emerged to receive the delighted applause of supporters who were no longer fractious but united in hatred of a common enemy - the Croats. The match continued, but what took place had less to do with sport than with ardent nationalism and with what it meant to be a football supporter in a country at war.
As Serbia moves uneasily towards a kind of western-style democracy, the Belgrade derby of 22 March 1992 is remembered now as a celebration of Serbian hooligan power and of a time when Serbian hooligan gangs seized control of football and of the criminal underworld, as well as committing some of the worst atrocities during the wars of secession in former Yugoslavia. It was a time when the Serbs of Belgrade became, unequivocally, the most powerful football hooligans in history.
'Looking back today at that particular match, it is ironic that the result never mattered,' says Igor Todorovic, a Serbian football commentator and contributor to the fanzines Daj Gol (Goal), Mi Smo Grobari (We Are Partizan) and Kop. 'I was there that day and it was remarkable when the supporters of the two teams, who hate each other so passionately, cheered together in unison. They had never done so before and I don't think they have since. The game finished goalless, which was hardly surprising. The players could barely concentrate; most of the Red Star players were watching what Arkan was doing in his box, not what the opposition were doing in theirs. We were united by nationalism and hatred of the Croats. There was an amazing sense of power within the ground, as if football supporters were changing the world. And in a sense they were, even if the situation was never to be repeated, even during the Kosovo conflict.'
Today, the hooligans of Belgrade may not be as powerful as they were during the Balkan wars, but they remain among the most violent and racist in world football. I have been to games in Belgrade where the violence between supporters was worse than anything I have witnessed in England, or indeed anywhere outside the former Eastern bloc. The violence is not restricted to football: Partizan and Red Star have affiliated clubs in other sports, such as basketball and handball, which are infected by hooliganism. Sometimes rival fans unite to disrupt public events, as they did when they smashed up Serbia's one and only attempt at a gay pride festival in 2001.
On 29 May 2003, I attended the Serbian cup final between Red Star Belgrade and Sartid of Smederevo, a small industrial town 20 miles south of the capital. The game was played in Belgrade at the Partizan Stadium. This should have been as unthreatening as a match between, say, Manchester United and Brighton & Hove Albion, which meant that I was not expecting any trouble. I was naive. Inside the stadium as many as 7,000 hard-core ultras from Red Star's north stand were massed together, chanting in unison. Theirs were catchy little numbers: 'We hope you die like all those Italians at Heysel'; 'You're going to get your fucking head stamped on like a Kosovan'.
At the other end of the stadium, a group of about 400 bewildered Sartid fans banged their drums. The game was dull, but ended disastrously for Red Star when Sartid scored a golden goal to win the cup in extra time. Hundreds of riot police and others on horseback responded to the agitation of the Red Star supporters by moving quickly to prevent them invading the pitch. But several hundred ultras escaped to attack the Sartid supporters; meanwhile, others were outside destroying the team bus of their own defeated team. Soon I found myself surrounded by Red Star supporters, dressed in red and white, who were pouring petrol on to plastic seats and setting them alight. Many were carrying knives and iron bars. The sense of violence about to erupt was intense.
The ultras of Red Star - the Delije or heroes - are the most feared, organised and uncompromising of the Serbian hooligan gangs. One of the founders of the Delije is a thin, silver-haired maths teacher called Zoran Timic. To meet him is to meet the antithesis of the stereotypical beer-bloated, shaven-headed English hooligan. He is pensive, quietly spoken and slight. When we go to a bar he mocks my English taste for beer and orders himself an iced cappuccino. Yet it is his role at games to 'choreograph the crowd', which, as he told me when I visited him at the official offices of the Delije at the stadium, he does enthusiastically with the aid of a megaphone. That the Delije have their own official offices is, in relative British terms, a bit like Roman Abramovich opening an office at Stamford Bridge for the Chelsea Headhunters. But then Chelsea, unlike Red Star, do not pay a hard-core of fans to travel to games and arrange choreography. Nor do they provide the 'boardroom' table around which hooligans plot attacks on rivals at home and abroad - something to which the Red Star hooligans are happy to admit and discuss.
The mood at the offices is one of suspicion mixed with bravado. It lifts when I tell them that I am a third-generation Liverpool fan. The Delije ask to see my tattoos. I tell them they are on my heart, which disarms them temporarily. They ask me if I was at Heysel. I wasn't, but I can give them details of what happened, which satisfies their blood lust. There is among the young Delije leaders, drinking free lager from the club bar and smoking cigarettes, a certain respect for the English hooligan. 'English fans don't have offices because all they do is fight,' says Marco, one of the young leaders, who refuses to concede that he is a hooligan. 'We organise the best choreography in the world. We're not just hooligans; we are ready for anything. For example, we showed those English homosexuals from Leicester how to fight a few years ago. We met them in the Uefa Cup and ran them in Leicester and again when we met up with them later in the year in Germany. We think that in England you don't realise how tough the Serbs are. We respect the English as the founders of hooliganism, but where are you now? Other nations have overtaken you.'
Padja, another young Delije leader, explains how he is responsible for smashing up the Red Star players' cars whenever they perform badly. He carries a handgun under his jacket and boasts of how he recently destroyed the car of Red Star's captain, Nemanja Vidic, after he appeared in a fashion shoot with the captain of Partizan. 'If you now have Kosovan refugees in your country,' he says, turning to me, 'it's your own fucking fault because you didn't let us finish the job. Now, they're all taking your money and your state benefits.'
Apart from a brief spell when he fell out of favour with Arkan, Zoran Timic has been Red Star's choreographer and mentor to young hooligans for much of the past decade. Away from football and teaching, he works on a history of Red Star, which he researches from a small room in his flat in north Belgrade. 'Football was a base for people to rebel against communism in Yugoslavia,' he told me. 'Most Red Star supporters were already very nationalist. What we did at the end of the 1970s was to take the choreography from Italian football and the hooliganism from England and mix it together to create our own style of football anti-communism. Hooliganism became a way of showing that we were free; of resisting the communist regime.'
The old multinational Yugoslav league, with its nationalist rivalries that communism could never fully suppress, was consistently marred by hooliganism. At first, the state-controlled media were reluctant to report on the growing hooligan menace. But then, on 14 September 1978, the country's first full-scale football riot took place when a train carrying Partizan supporters to a game against Sarajevo was halted by police at Sid in Croatia. The Partizan fans responded by demolishing the train. The violence spread to the town itself and the fans fought running battles with the authorities for many hours.
'You have to realise that the establishment may have been communist and pro-Yugoslav,' explains Igor Todorovic, 'but football fans in the main were not. Partizan fans might hate Red Star but, at the end of the day, they are still Serbs. One of our most famous sayings here is that "Serbs united will never be defeated". We take that sentiment very seriously.'
Throughout the late 1970s and early 1980s, the football grounds of Yugoslavia became popular places for nationalist recruitment. In May 1980, when the Yugoslav head of state, Marshal Tito, died, leaving behind no obvious unifying successor, nationalists, both in Serbia and Croatia, understood how they could use football to further their own ends. Nationalist football violence escalated in tandem with the crumbling of central control. The 'Gravediggers' of Partizan rampaged to the sound of British punk bands; the Red Star ultras attacked rival fans using bayonets and iron bars. In Croatia, one hooligan leader kidnapped a supporter of Hajduk Split and raped him with a broom handle over a period of two days.
By the early 1990s, hardline nationalist and anti-government sentiment was so entrenched among supporters that battles with police before and after matches were weekly events. On 13 May 1990, Red Star travelled to Croatia to meet Dynamo Zagreb, in what would be the last game before the collapse of the old Yugoslav league and with it the state itself. In what have been described as the worst scenes of football hooliganism witnessed in Europe, thousands of Delije fought the Zagreb 'Bad Blue Boys' mob, as well as the local police. The game - a portent of the wars that followed - was abandoned after 10 minutes, but not before Zagreb's best player, Zvonimir Boban, who later joined AC Milan, kicked a policeman who was trying to prevent Croatian hooligans from attacking the Red Star end. After this, the fighting went on for more than an hour and the stadium was eventually set on fire.
Some time in 1990, Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic became so concerned by the activities of Red Star's Delije that Jovica Stanisic, the former head of state security who is now on trial for war crimes at the Hague, enlisted Zelijko Raznatovic - Arkan - to help control and direct the violence of the hooligans. Arkan, a criminal and agitator who was eventually assassinated on 15 January 2000, understood that Red Star could be for him what Real Madrid were for Franco, or the Italy team, playing in black shirts, were to Mussolini - a force of power and influence in wider society.
Arkan took over effective control of the Delije, running everything from ticket sales to foreign travel and intimidation of match officials. He built himself a luxury mansion overlooking the ground, a post-communist exercise in shiny marble and smoked glass topped with satellite dishes. Within a year, he began to recruit and organise groups of nationalists - the notorious paramilitary Tigers - to fight the 'patriotic' war in Croatia and, later, in Kosovo. The wars in these territories were as much about business as they were about politics. By invading, looting and setting up monopolies in oil, alcohol and cigarette companies, Arkan and his employers grew wealthy while ordinary Serbs struggled. Arkan recruited extensively from the north bank of the Maracana. Hundreds of hard-core fans took pride in joining his disciplined, clean-shaven mobile killing squads. But not all Tigers were Delije; many were Partizan Gravediggers.
One Red Star supporter, Dejan Vukelic, whom I met in a coffee shop in central Belgrade, explained how he was in China 'living above a brothel and taking full advantage' when the Balkan war broke out. He returned home to fight in the Yugoslav army, only to find the demoralised communist force in disarray. It was while he was in the army that he heard about Arkan's training camp. 'I went straight to Arkan's people in Croatia,' he says. 'As a nationalist I thought it was my duty to be there. At first, I was impressed with the order and the sense of discipline. The training was good and the emphasis on cleansing the Croatians and Muslims from Serb territory was essential. But I didn't witness the atrocities that the Western media talk about. I didn't see much criminal behaviour...'
Many of Arkan's paramilitaries are now back in Belgrade and once more involved in sponsoring crime and violence, before, during and after matches. To these disaffected men and their younger, admiring brothers, football is war and war is football. Can they ever be stopped?
Zeljko Tomic, a member of Serbia's Parliament, is a 36-year-old committed fan of Partizan Belgrade and a voice of sanity in the disturbed world of Serbian football. 'The first thing we need to do is tackle the problem of corruption in our football,' he says. 'If we continue to sell off our best players in scams there will never be any money in our football and the game will remain at a low level. When Partizan sold Mateja Kezman to PSV Eindhoven, for example, we were supposed to be sent new floodlights by Philips, the owners of PSV, but theywent missing en route. That kind of deal where someone pocketed all the cash for himself - at the club's expense - is typically Serbian.
'The other main area we have to address is violence at sporting events, particularly football. Over the past season the hooligan issue has not improved, with vicious fighting between fans of Partizan and Red Star, and with these fans and the police. All matches in Serbia are affected in one way or another. We have to reverse the situation.' Can you succeed?
'I don't know,' he says,cautiously, 'but we must try. The government has recently introduced a law to combat hooliganism, and I backed it. We are starting to make some progress.'
The violence among Serbian football supporters is not as extreme as it was in March 1992 when the Tigers invaded the north stand of the Maracana to display their road signs, their trophies of war. But the violence remains, as does the pervading fear among supporters. Fortunately, Serbs have never supported their national team, Serbia and Montenegro, with anything approaching the fervour they reserve for their clubs. That may change soon, however, if Montenegro, as expected, finally ends its uneven union with Serbia following a referendum later this year. The hooligans may then gather behind a united, fully Serbian national team. If and when this happens, the world of football had better watch out.
Serbia have been drawn with Spain, Belgium, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Lithuania and San Marino in Group Seven of the European phase of qualification for the 2006 World Cup in Germany. |
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